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How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person

He was thriving in the N.F.L., but then he decided to focus on mathematics — a subject he now teaches at M.I.T. John walks Stephen Dubner through the whole story, teaches him some blocking techniques, and explains why some infinities are bigger than others. If you'd like to see the video version of Better in Person, you can watch it on YouTube or Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Pillay, J. [@jpillay]. (2026, September 16). How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person [Audio podcast episode]. In Freakonomics Radio. CIT.ED. https://cit.education/p/f9da90c1-4c38-4a0d-a139-ef08fc8d83b9

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Pillay, J. [@jpillay] (2026) ‘How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person’, Freakonomics Radio [Podcast]. CIT.ED, 16 September. Available at: https://cit.education/p/f9da90c1-4c38-4a0d-a139-ef08fc8d83b9 (Accessed: 3 November 2026).

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Pillay, J. [@jpillay]. “How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person.” Freakonomics Radio, CIT.ED, 16 Sept. 2026, cit.education/p/f9da90c1-4c38-4a0d-a139-ef08fc8d83b9.

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Pillay, J. (@jpillay). 2026. “How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person.” Freakonomics Radio. CIT.ED podcast episode, September 16, 2026. https://cit.education/p/f9da90c1-4c38-4a0d-a139-ef08fc8d83b9.

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Pillay J. How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person [podcast episode on the Internet]. Freakonomics Radio. CIT.ED; 2026 Sep 16 [cited 2026 Nov 3]. Available from: https://cit.education/p/f9da90c1-4c38-4a0d-a139-ef08fc8d83b9

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